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Why are Roman amphitheatres elliptical?

ORIGINAL QUERY:
Date: Tuesday 20 May 2003
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Norwegian University of Technology and Science (NTNU)

In taking over some lectures for our retired professor, I had to illuminate our first year students on the, to them, strange subject of of classical antiquity. The notion of architectural history is still so foreign to them that they don't know what to ask about. Or, maybe I overload them with information and slides - it's not that easy to squeeze it all into just three lectures.

Standing there, speaking about Roman theatres and amphi-theatres, I started wondering. I am embarrassed to admit that it was the first time it struck me that there must be a reason why the Colosseum and other amphitheatres are elliptical in plan, while their derivations -- the Iberian bull-fighting arenas, and the modern circus -- are circular, and the Roman theatres are semi-circular. I can't remember having seen any explanation in the literature. And -- are they true ellipses, or made up from circle arcs of different radii?

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#1 Luigi Pepe 2010-08-08 22:17
Non so se è la risposta esatta, ma ho sempre pensato che la forma ellittica sia dovuta alla proprietà dell'ellisse che la somma delle distanze da due luoghi privilegiati (i fuochi) sia costante.

(I don't know if this is the exact response, but I have always thought that the elliptical shape was due to the property of the ellipse that the sum of the distances from two privileged loci (the focuses) is constant.)
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#2 Maurizio Lorber 2010-08-08 22:18
I'm without an answer too about the ellipse-cirle problem in architecture (by the way, as you know, the colosseo is not an ellipse) but I think that you can find an interesting geometrical construction in the first book of Sebastiano Serlio and probably in the books of architecture of Vitruvius (especially in the illustrated edition of Daniele Barbaro and Palladio).
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#3 Paul Rosin 2010-08-08 22:18
Jean-Claude Golvin in his book, L'Amphitheatre romain: essai sur la theorisation de sa forme et de ses fonctions, discusses these issues in great detail. First, he argues (as have many others before and after) that ampitheatres are oval rather than elliptical.

As for their overall shape, he says that a square or rectangular ampitheatre would result in combatants getting stuck in the corners. Circles/ovals make better use of the space. And finally, ovals/ellipses are better than circular ampitheatres since they have a dominant direction, giving a structure to the fight, whereas a circle would lead to an impression of confusion.
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#4 Mario Docci 2010-08-08 22:19
Potrà trovare la risposta ai suoi quesiti sulla rivista Disegnare, idee, immagini, n°18-19 Editore Gangemi-Roma. Comunque gli anfiteatri romani sotto tutti degli ovali a quattro o più centri.

(You can find the answers to your questions in the periodical Disegnare, idee, immagini, no. 18-19, Editore Gangemi, Roma. In any case, Roman amphitheatres are all ovals with four or more centers.)
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#5 Brigitte Van Tiggele 2010-08-08 22:24
While honeymooning in Greece some years ago, I remember visiting an elliptical theater in Thorikos. It seems that early stone theater were not circular... and that more theater of this kind have been excavated in the last decade.

Have a look at the following web sites (some in German) :

lilt.ilstu.edu/drjclassics/lectures/theater/ancient_greek_theater.shtm
www.gottwein.de/Hell2000/theat02.php
www.oeaw.ac.at/kal/rezensionen/antra04.html
www.open.ac.uk/Arts/CC99/green.html#[3]

About the reason for elliptical, one should also question the probable need for a rectangularlike stage instaed of a circular one...
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#6 João Pedro Xavier 2010-08-08 22:28
It's almost impossible to distinguish an ellipse from an oval when the major and minor axes are not too different. Anyway, there is the question of the "parallelism": it is not possible to draw "parallel" ellipses while it's easy to do that with ovals (I'm remembering Serlio's ovals and the correspondent instructions to trace concentric ovals). I mean, if we have an ellipse and we intend to trace a line with each point equidistant to that ellipse we do not obtain another ellipse. So it seems reasonable for builders to adopt the oval form which facilitates the construction of the rows of benches and do not corrupt the whole form. But we have to wait for Sylvie's commentaries...

(Editor's note: Sylvie Duvernoy addressed the ellipse-oval issues in her Nexus 2002 presentation, "Architecture and Mathematics in Roman Amphitheaters" www.nexusjournal.com/.../, published in Nexus IV: Architecture and Mathematics.)
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#7 Roger Herz Fischler 2010-08-08 22:55
I discuss this in Shape, Form and Space (editor's note: this is the text the Herz Fischler prepared for his own course on architecture and mathematics, a chapter of which is excerpted in the NNJ as "Didactics: Proportions in the Architecture Curriculum." www.springerlink.com/content/j6021335745278xh/)

The references that I give are:
  • Thoenes, C. 1963. "Studien zur Geschichte des peeteresplatzes", Zeitschrift fuer Kunstgeschichte, 26 (1963), 97-145 [this is for St. Peter's, suggests that a quadarc was used].


  • Gridgeman, N.T. 1970. "Quadarcs, St. Peter's and the Coloseum", The Mathematics Teacher, 63 (1970), 209-215. Suggests quadarcs in all of these.


The important thing to remember is that conic sections in Roman times were all defined as cuts of cones; equation forms did not exist! So laying out an elliptical field is something that may not have even entered someone's mind.
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#8 John de Pillis 2010-08-08 23:00
REFLECTING PROPERTY of ELLIPSES:
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A property of truly elliptical amphitheaters is that sound emitted from one of its foci is concentrated onto the other focus. That is, although sound may travel in all directions from one of the foci, each "sound wave" is reflected off the wall at just the correct angle so as to arrive at the second focus.

APPLICATION:
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This means that a person can whisper while standing at one focus, and be heard clearly by someone else, standing at the second focus. (This feature is shown to visitors in several government buildings and museums.) People not located at either focus can not hear the whispers.

A LINK?
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Whether the Romans used this "secret channel" to communicate, I do not know. Could be.

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The (original) graphic,"Elliptical Arena," will illustrate more exactly, the ideas presented in my verbal response to why amphitheaters may be elliptical.

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#9 Graham Pont 2010-08-08 23:01
I seem to recall reading (many years ago) an explanation of the theatre form in Francesco Milizia, Trattato completo formale e materiale del teatro (1794).
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#10 Rudi Penne 2010-08-08 23:01
I am not sure whether my contribution is useful, because I haven't taken a close look at the shape of the amphitheatres yet. However, I guess they are not elliptic, but rather "super-elliptic" (at least they should be), with equation

(|x|/a)^p + (|y|/b)^p = 1

with p a real number, typically between 2 and 3, but it might be larger. If p equals 2, we get an ellips, and if p tends to infinity, we get a rectangle. Superellipses (or Lamé ovals) are a "compromise" between ellipses and rectangles.

These super shapes often appear in nature since they perform better than circles (ellipses) and squares (rectangles) in matters like optimal fluid transport (e.g., a plane section of a bamboo stem). I 've been told that Piet Hein (mathematician? town architect?) designed a traffic square in Stockholm using a super-ellipse as model (I should look up again about the exponent p here), optimizing the traffic around the square.

I don't think that the ancient designers of the Colosseum were aware of the existence of super-ellipses, but maybe they had the right intuition?
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